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Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 06:30:00 - [1] So when is the pilgrim getting a reduction in capacitor use for energy emission systems? Or when is the pilgrim going to get an additional 200-300 m3 cargo space so we can run our energy neutralizers? And when are we going to get an additional 50-150PG? AND an extra mid slot? Or how about range? Any word on this? Seriously, with the amount of training that people have done to get into this ship (and to some extent, the curse), its pretty damn ridiculous that we're no long able to be out in enemy territory for a sustained amount of time harassing their members. But yet, the kid brother to the pilgrim, the Sentinel, gets these bonuses? Seriously, wtf. other than that, I will add nothing to this thread.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 06:33:00 - [2] I have an idea, since the sentinel is an Electronic Attack frigate, but the Pilgrim is a Force Recon ship, why don't we just do away with the Tracking Disruptor bonus, and give us either energy emissions range, or cap use reduction. other than that, I will add nothing to this thread.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 07:21:00 - [3] The pilgrim is a capacitor warfare ship And I fit 2 neuts, 1 NOS; I hardly every run the 2nd neutralizer due to the capacitor use (what do you mean you have to actually USE an armor repairer, omg!) other than that, I will add nothing to this thread.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 07:30:00 - [4] Originally by: Hoshi None of the new frigs get a cloaking bonus so it would be better to compare them to the combat recons and not the force recons. Would you really want to switch that drone damage bonus on the curse for a cap recharge one? Your right, that slipped my reading comprehension skills, however, the argument remains the same. And who the ** said anything about the Curse. I could have sworn the topic of this post was about the Pilgrim** other than that, I will add nothing to this thread.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 09:30:00 - [5] i'm going to bump this until a DEV responds. Going on my 3rd pilgrim loss of the day due to CAP ISSUES. the pilgrim DOES NOT perform. FIX IT gdmit.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 09:52:00 - [6] This is getting better by the god damn minute. Now you can probe out cloaked ships on SISI? I may as well fly a ******* arbitrator then.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 10:23:00 - [7] Edited by: Feng Schui on 25/10/2007 10:24:33 Originally by: Mephysto This is correct. Scan probes will now be able to detect cloaked ships. This update will be testable on Singularity when it next gets updated (probably on Tuesday since this is a holiday weekend here). and FYI, this is not the first time that they put this change on SiSi, so it is coming. Rev3? Next patch? whenever. Do the dev's care what happens to the recons? obviously not (case study: PILGRIM)
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 10:34:00 - [8] damn JSB to hell.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 13:59:00 - [9] bump... is this ship working as intended? if it is, please, let the community know at least, so we can start flying something useful.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 14:52:00 - [10] Looks like the dev's are starting to post, so we do know they're around....

Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.25 23:15:00 - [11] Edited by: Feng Schui on 25/10/2007 23:16:59 bump, i wish people that didn't fly amarr recons would stay the hell out of balancing threads about them. oh, wait... does anyone at ccp fly amarr recons? helloooooo edit: and to the person above this, both the curse AND the pilgrim get the tracking disruptor bonus from the arbitrator hull. their additional bonus are bonuses to NOS + cyno'ing. this makes BOTH of them ewar + cap warfare boats. please don't post on issues you know nothing about. thanks.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.27 05:27:00 - [12] to the top
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.29 11:06:00 - [13] Originally by: Aaron Mirrorsaver Feng, please the td bonus is good. Other wise I couldnt solo turret ships, or kill that blasterthron I killed, I'd be in seconds once he opened up, as I was at half armor before turning on td's... just in those few seconds of click to activate the td. Sarcasm =p I don't really think Tracking Disruptors are all that overpowered. On the arbitrator / pilgrim / curse, they function very effectively; but.. isn't that what they are meant to do? Hence the bonus? The pilgrim is a solo ship. This is confirmed. Damps are getting nerfed (some pilgrim pilots used them, odd...); and Tracking Disruptors are getting nerfed. Nos has already been nerfed. The 3 modules which allowed the pilgrim to solo effectively, are all getting nerfed. Exactly what are we supposed to do? Hello, Dev's? helloooooo
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.29 14:43:00 - [14] Originally by: Corwain I'd really like to see a Devs input on the whole Pilgrim situation. Especially one that has actually flown one on TQ. you and I both. All I would like to know from him/her; is if the Pilgrim is performing as intended, if its broke, if its getting looked at, something, anything; and I'm sure all of the Pilgrim pilots would be grateful.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.29 21:53:00 - [15] Originally by: Corwain Amarr do get shafted quite a bit, but I'm much more concerned with the Pilgrim than anything else. See, the Pilgrim is the ship that got me into PvP in the first place. Watched "Behind Enemy Lines" by Ginaz when I was a wee noob with 2 months under my belt. At the time I was doing hauling and mining for a living, this video changed my EVE career. I just loved the idea of stalking your prey unseen, and just decloaking right next to them and attacking. Nowadays instead of needing a new pair of shorts your enemy needs a new rib from laughing so hard. I got into PvP, learned the ropes with the Arbitrator and graduated to the Pilgrim. I fly other races (notably Gallente, a bit of Caldari, just now getting into Minnie) but I always came back to the Pilgrim. While I can fly many ships the Pilgrim was my first love and it tears me up to see her reduced to a pile of scrap. If no change is made I predict we'll see prices of 30mil apiece in the next year, which will be amazing for a T2 cruiser. this is exactly how i started with the pilgrim as well. and here we are, 20M sp later, in skills i tailored to the pilgrim, only for this ship to be shafted into neuterless. not too mention, it'll be tough to kill even turret based ships with the upcoming nerf to tracking disruptors (and I use the term, "tough to kill," loosely, because if people know wtf they are doing, you can get around them w/o using ANY modules.)
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:37:00 - [16] i hear that =( well, maybe tomorrow a dev or someone from ccp will speak up about the issues that the pilgrim has. probably not though, i will be surprised if someone does though, heh.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.30 12:25:00 - [17] I wonder when we'll get input from someone that works for ccp
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.30 15:16:00 - [18] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=625436
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.10.31 21:58:00 - [19] it is true :\
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.01 10:43:00 - [20] Originally by: John Quicksilver Also fit 1 neut 2 nos you don't know how nos works, do you? Quote: Also bring TDs to a turret ship fight next patch, tracking disruptors are even more crappy than they are now. and there are ways to avoid the penalty from tracking disruptors. Quote: Also 150 m3 drone bay incoming is 15 medium drones, bring ecm drones to escape a fight if u suddenly decide you're in over your head. your drones don't auto-recharge shields, meaning the rest of that 150m3 drone bay will be needed for backup damage drones. Quote: Also dual rep tank the pilgrim since u have loads of cap with 2 nos and a med injector again, you have no idea how nos or neuts work, eh? Hell, even with 1 injector, and 1 armor rep, i still need a powergrid rig (and yes, I have eng 5) Quote: No MWD either, thats dead pilgrim get out of low sec and go to 0.0 without a microwarpdrive. Quote: Armor rep amount rigs aswell Guess what? I do use an armor rep rig, I also use all but 1 of my hardwiring slots for 5% armor-type bonuses (the other 1 is a 5% cap reduction bonus for neuts). all in all, that was a very uninformed post. try again.

Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.02 12:24:00 - [21] well, after some fights on sisi, i think i'm going to give up on it. 1) Nos and Neutralizers are not effective for various reasons 2) Tracking disruptors are no longer effective 3) ** poor tanking abilities 4) ** poor DPS 5) Can no longer scoop / redeploy drones to recharge their shields, makes it alot easier to kill off drones.
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition	Posted - 2007.11.02 20:19:00 - [22] sweet, just lost another pilgrim! yea.. I think I might just train another race, which is a shame, considering I spent the last year training for the Pilgrim
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.03 03:24:00 - [23] I would like the dev's to tell the pilgrim community exactly how the hell we are supposed to equip our ships, because everything i try, is useless. or.. are we supposed to be some kind of ewar / logistics ship?
Feng Schui Minmatar The Ninja Coalition Drunken N Disorderly	Posted - 2007.11.17 00:54:00 - [24] bump

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